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As most of you are aware, our company has gone through
some very difficult and trying times over the past few
weeks. I won't spend too much time dwelling on this but
the fact is we are being sabotaged and ruthlessly
attacked and accused. We believe it to be the same
person who took our server (which held all company
information). We have reasonable evidence that this same
person is now trying to start a competing business with
some of our ex-staffers. His "smear campaign" goal seems
to be to cause fear and distrust among our 1,200 clients
in order to keep us from moving forward and achieving
our dream of the only consumer advocate in the country
for The American Dream.
(Editors notes are in blue: wow, is
this guy high? A LOT of people have complained to me by
email about "promises not kept" and "feeling lied to"
..., and for one I am sorry the whole thing has not
worked out for those of us who have spent such a
considerable sum of money! The person (CJ) that Jeff is referring to above called me too and
tried to harass me as well. Not a good guy it would
appear..., but the fact remains that we are already out
at least $3,490 each, .... some agents are out $25,000
each. I just do not and will not trust Jeff Guthrie
again.)
We do have the police and investigators involved and we
firmly believe justice will prevail and this man will be
held accountable for his wrongful actions. That said,
our company has taken an unbelievable beating and there
is absolutely no way we can continue in business unless
YOU COME TO OUR AID!
(The company was in serious financial
trouble BEFORE the complaints started coming in. Now
Jeff is asking for MORE MONEY? NO WAY RAY!)
(Below is a plan that requires you to make a one-time
payment of $500 and, in return, we will give you
"unlimited" BANK-APPROVED CLIENTS - and you will NEVER
PAY A SINGLE REFERRAL FEE! NEVER!)
(Wait a minute, for $500 we will NEVER pay a Referral
fee again?
Read on..,
what he REALLY means is pay him another $2,000 by check,
the credit card company seems to not be a good way to
keep the money, and yes what about the payment of
referral fees...?")
It would be a tremendous waste and horrible shame to see
such a grand business concept go completely under when
that just DOES NOT NEED TO HAPPEN! And I personally
believe that in these very difficult economic times we
live in this "consumer advocate" concept is MORE VIABLE
THAN EVER!
FACT - No matter what the market conditions, there are
ALWAYS people buying and selling real estate
(Tell us
something we don't know Jeff)
FACT - Almost ninety percent - 9 out of 10 - buyers and
sellers go to the web for real estate
FACT - Real estate is one of the largest business
categories on the web
FACT - Buyers and sellers prefer a third-party website
to do their research - NOT AN AGENT'S SITE (80% of
consumers will LEAVE an agent's website with 5-8 seconds
if they aren't sent to you by a third-party
JEFF'S FACT - The timing is PERFECT for a "consumer
advocate" for the largest and most important transaction
of a family's life - buying and selling real estate!
(DUH.... you think we don't know these things?)
FACT - We cannot stay in business unless you HELP US -
but if you do help us we are willing to do some amazing
things for you
(LIKE....,
uhhhh WHAT HAVE YOU ALREADY DONE IN THE PAST 5 YEARS
JEFF..., except take money from people.)
THE BAIL-OUT PLAN
Right now we are working with two companies to achieve
the "consumer advocate" dream and to get you as much
business as possible. We are working with One Source IT
(James Henderson is the owner) who spends much of his
time in our office and is completely dedicated to
constantly improving the look and functionality of the
website. He is also extremely focused on the search
engine optimization of our home page and the tens of
thousands of niche landing pages we have. The other
company we are working with is a lending institution
headed up locally by Guthrie Silkwood (he, along with a
lending staff of 8 people are working out of our
offices).
As we stated in our sales calls (and our validation
calls and my orientation call) this is a "big-picture"
program. NOBODY can promise if and when the search
engines will pick up on the sites BUT because of our
incredible niche pages we believe (and have been told by
many, many professionals) that we have the BEST
opportunity for you to GET FOUND! We will continue
moving forward with the website.
Who is
Guthrie Silkwood?
Google search finds:
http://www.gobignetwork.com/profiles/Guthrie-Silkwood.aspx
- is this the same guy???
Bellevue Finance Group
Company Description:
We are a small firm that works on the tech side of the
financial industry. We have a model in place yet are in
need of a cash infusion to reach our next platform.
BANK-APPROVED LEADS: We have walked into a gold-mine
here with these bank-approved leads. Folks, these leads
have been ABSOLUTELY APPROVED by the bank (and I think
the rate is something like 6% or .25% BELOW most other
lending institutions)! Each buyer agrees to work with
our agent AND THEY ARE READY TO BUY NOW! Because they
have been approved for the loan they are ready RIGHT NOW
to find their dream home (EXAMPLE: 3 weeks ago when we
first started getting these leads we gave out 60
bank-approved leads. According to Mr. Silkwood, about 20
of them have already found their house and are going
into closing - AND IT TOOK JUST 3 WEEKS!)
(... if you
get 20 agents enough leads to get them some
business, they may give you a few testimonies that you
can point at and maybe think that you can get the rest
of us to back off? What about the other 1,180 members?)
Agents are telling us these are the ABSOLUTE BEST
clients (leads) they have ever received! Mr. Silkwood
himself is even amazed at how good these clients are. He
says he believes he can get 1,500 to 2,000 of these
bank-approved, ready-to-buy leads each month. But it
takes money to do this. In the past, I stated I may
charge each REexpert a "monthly" fee AND an "up-front"
fee for each bank-approved client. WE ARE NOT GOING TO
DO THIS! We are NOT going to charge a monthly fee. We
are NOT going to charge an up-front fee for the
bank-approved clients. We are going to stick with our
original agreement - working as partners or
collaborators with you - whereby we get paid only WHEN
YOU GET PAID (on closed transactions you pay a 20%
referral fee to the real estate company of our choice).
(... now how
does THAT work? Do you not have a Broker any more in
house? What has happened to her..., and can we legally
pay a referral fee to ANY company that is not a Licensed
Real Estate Company or Agent? Not that I am aware of. -
Earlier you said NO REFERRAL FEES would be paid EVER!)
BUT WE NEED TO GET PAID! Our records show that it looks
like we have had dozens of agents close deals and NOT
pay us. We cannot survive as a "collaborating" business
if we aren't getting paid. And because of the recent
smear campaign we have virtually SHUT DOWN bringing in
new REexperts which means we have NO money. WE have cut
our staff down by 75%. We are doing everything possible
to keep costs at a bare minimum BUT if we are to keep
having the website worked on (optimized for search
engines) AND if we are to keep getting these INCREDIBLE
bank-approved leads then WE NEED YOUR HELP
(WHAT....???
You said "WE NEED TO GET PAID!" - JOKING RIGHT? GET PAID
FOR WHAT??? - WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO GET PAID FOR?
--- ALSO, CAN YOU PROVE THAT DOZENS OF
Licensed Real Estate Agents REALLY did not
pay you a legitimate referral fee that they owed?
Not likely.)
HERE'S THE PLANS (NOTE: These plans were inspired by
conversations and brain-storming with a number of our
current REexperts):
PLAN A - One-time $500 payment
You overnight a check for $500 and we will give you
unlimited bank-approved clients (as we get them in your
territory we will turn them over to you) and you NEVER
pay us a referral fee on these bank-approved deals. You
will still pay us the regular 20% referral fees on any
business you get from The Real Estate Advocate site.
(You should have asked for cashiers
checks or money orders Jeff, it takes up to 10 days to
clear an out of state check. I got a call from the lady
who signed for your Merchant Account, who I will not
name. She told me that she is in real trouble with all
the charge backs....wants me to back off telling people
to demand their money back from their credit card
companies. She no longer works for Jeff but says she was
suckered into signing for him when she was an employee
because her credit score was high enough at the time and
now she is at high risk. hummmm, It has been said that a
lot of your employees have quit and have said publicly
that you did bad things.)
PLAN B - One-time $2,000 payment
You overnight a check for $500 and we will give you
unlimited bank-approved clients (as we get them in your
territory we will turn them over to you) and you NEVER
pay us a referral fee on these bank-approved deals. And
you NEVER pay the 20% referral fees on any business you
get from The Real Estate Advocate site. IN OTHER WORDS:
YOU NEVER PAY A REFERRAL FEE. PERIOD!
(WHAT...?
Did you say send in $2,000 but then say to overnight
$500... so which is it? ITS A TYPO folks. The only way
you have to make more money later, you have said in the
past.... is to collect referral fees of 20% as leads
turn into sales. So what would you do once the $2,000
per person is spent? NO MORE INCOME...? - Someone didn't
think that one through very well.)
That's it. This is what it will take to save this
business. If you choose to NOT accept either of these
plans then we will take that as you want out of the
network and we will make a best-effort attempt to pay
you back your set-up fee sometime in the future. In the
meantime, we will re-sell your territory to another
agent, give them the bank-approved clients and we will
collect referral fees from them.
(SOUNDS LIKE
A THREAT TO ME.... TAKE "MY" TERRITORY AND GIVE IT TO
ANOTHER AGENT? - COWARD, THIEF, LIAR and SCOUNDREL. The
fear of loss will make some agent pay you,
undoubtedly... but I will not fall for it. I want my
money back, but hope its not because some other poor
agent gets screwed over in the process.)
Folks, all of us here at the company have done our best
to make this a successful company (and there are many,
many agents who are getting a great number of leads and
business).
(ok... PROVE IT. Why can you not
prove it? I have NOT received any leads in over 8 months
since I joined. Suddenly now.., you will produce leads
in an attempt to show some success?)
It's unfortunate what has happened to us (and this
horrible, ugly cyber attack that we have had to endure)
but we are committed to keeping this great visions
ALIVE! We firmly believe that one day in the near future
millions of American (and European, Asian, and Spanish)
home buyers and sellers will turn to The Real Estate
Advocate for the greatest real estate experience of
their life. But we need some help RIGHT NOW.
You have already paid $3,500 - $4,000 so I understand
why you may be apprehensive to pay a one-time payment of
$500. But think about this: You "believed" in what we
are accomplishing otherwise you never would have joined
as the exclusive REexpert in your territory, right? With
these incredible bank-approved clients isn't worth this
one-time $500 to keep this company alive and "protect"
your original set-up fee? Your first deal will more than
pay for your entire membership fee! And we will continue
to give you bank-approved deal after deal after deal AND
YOU DO NOT HAVE TO PAY US A REFERRAL FEE - NEVER!
(multiple agents have told us they would pay 30%-35%
referral fees for these deals - BUT YOU PAY NOTHING!)
(THE PROBLEM
IS JEFF..... CHECK THIS OUT.... You have been promising
this for 5 years! YOU have spent millions of dollars
collected from real estate agents over the years and
still now have had NO SUCCESS... NOW YOU
WANT MORE MONEY WITH BIG PROMISES AND MORE THREATS!)
The reason we can do this is because for every 1 or 2
bank-approved clients we give you we can reasonably get
one bank-approved client in a territory where we do NOT
have an REexpert and then collect a referral fee. But we
cannot keep working on the Real Estate Advocate website
OR keep getting these amazing bank-approved deals for
you unless you help us out by overnighting a check for
$500 or, if you prefer, you can take Plan B and pay us
$2,000 (but you MUST overnight a check TODAY. Because of
the recent threat we will not accept any credit cards.
We cannot risk it).
(...what
threat? The credit card companies have had too many
demands from Agents who want their money back.)
All we need are one-quarter of our current 1,200 agents
(a total of 300 agents) to pay just the minimum one-time
$500 and we can keep things going, keep the website
worked on, keep the bank-approved leads coming in to you
- so that in 60 -120 days we are collecting referral
fees from new REexperts we bring into the program (who
will pay us 25%+ for these bank-approved closings). You
have already paid $3,500+. I'm terribly sorry it has
come down to this BUT isn't it worth just one payment of
$500 for us to keep the doors open and start getting you
these bank-approved clients?
(NO.... NOT ME JEFF. JUST COUNT ME OUT WHEN IT
COMES TO PAYING
YOU ANY MORE
MONEY!!! - YOU HAVE HAD 5 YEARS TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. NOW
YOU THREATEN US WITH TOTAL LOSS IF WE DO NOT SEND YOU
MORE MONEY...???
- GET A CLUE FOLKS.)
Finally, please DO NOT call or email us right now with
your questions. ATTACHED is an addendum for each of the
2 plans. Pick a plan, sign it, and overnight it with a
check. We will then start sending you those
bank-approved clients as well as keep working on your
consumer advocate site (with weekly updates from us that
we will email to you). We are keeping our costs very,
very low which means we DO NOT have the staff to answer
calls and emails from 1,200 agents. I'm sorry.
For your security, if, after you have paid the one-time
$500 or $2,000, we were to ever close the company down
please understand that I will continue hosting the
website and managing the "consumer advocate" (it costs
me a very, very small amount of money to do this) and we
would turn over ALL of your niche pages and website(s)
to you - YOU WILL HAVE FULL OWNERSHIP SO YOU COULD KEEP
USING THE SITE TO GET BUSINESS.
(OH YES...
DO NOT CALL OR EMAIL??? JUST SEND MORE MONEY?)
BUT LET'S KEEP THIS DREAM ALIVE! It's just such a
wonderful program and it really takes very little effort
and money to get found by the public (and I firmly
believe the public would rather work with the ONLY real
estate advocate then all the crappy real estate referral
companies that are "crowding" the market and taking
business away from YOU!
(Appealing
to our greed? You say there are only a few and all the
rest are crappy and...taking our business? .... You are
a sick man Jeff Guthrie, I would say the majority of
agents are good people and only a few are crappy. Those
who pay you anything deserve what they get.)
If you are going to do this YOU MUST ACT TODAY! We have
no money to pay staff or even pay rent to keep our
office. That's how bad we've been hit by this smear
campaign. Please sign the addendum and overnight it
(along with a check) today so we can start sending you
these incredible bank-approved clients. Please respond
by email which plan you will be signing.
Very Sincerely,
Jeff Guthrie
(You say to
respond by email which plan we will sign??? But earlier
you said NO EMAILS OR PHONE CALLS. - Shut it down
Jeff. You have robbed enough people IMHO.)
PS - I'm sure that as a result of me writing you this
letter you will start receiving some more horrible
emails, fraud-alerts, etc as a means to cause you doubt
and distrust. That's exactly what they've been doing and
it's exactly what they want to accomplish. To my
knowledge, I am the only one with this proprietary
method to qualify and provide you these bank-approved
clients (because of Mr. Silkwood). If we all work
together (and you take one of these plans) we believe we
will be bringing in over $1 million a month in referral
fees (not from you - YOU DON'T PAY REFERRAL FEES!) as we
continue to build this program over the next several
months. That's a lot of money for us to put back into
the advocate program to get you even more business. And
that's exactly what this hurtful individual does NOT
want to see happen. So please be prepared to receive
some more ugly emails from this hurtful person. BUT DO
NOT LET IT STOP YOU FROM MAKING THE "RIGHT" DECISION OF
KEEPING THIS COMPANY ALIVE AND PROVIDING YOU THIS
INCREDIBLE BUSINESS!
- NOTE TO JEFF: .... you
really are a sick man. You have called me several times
for advice plus you paid me to fly to Denver to meet you
at your offices, but you never showed up. You don't
often listen to other peoples advice..., you just spend
other peoples money. My advice to you Jeff is that you
get an appointment today for some professional
psychological counseling! I believe you are a sociopath
and need the help.
I am
complaining because you took my $3,490 and gave me
nothing for it. You apologized later, but its really
sick to ask for more money now.
Donald J.
Leske II
- Designated Broker
BCI PROPERTIES, LLC
P.O. Box 44065, Tacoma WA 98448
Ph: 253.241.6695
Fax: 253.536.1236
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